Osama bin Forgotten ... dead or alive?
Consider the sources: French, Saudi ... Reuters ...
Then again, August 23 is my "lucky day" every year and that's when l'Est Republicain gave as the date of his death. They went so far as to suggest that it was a waterborne disease that did him in ... typhoid maybe? I'll have to check with my "French informant," le Rouge et le Noir to know whether l'Est Republicain is another National Inquirer (rumor rag) or not.
I can state for certainty that the "Saudi Secret Services" (also known as the "Saudi Intelligence services") are pretty reliable when it comes to matters like this and they state that they are certain. Thus, I take it more seriously than most; I guess. After all, I lived there.
As for terrorism, it will continue for as long as the West regards Muslims and Arabs, in particular, as some kind of inferior beings.
When will we all learn that God gave the earth to all of us?
posted by Dr. Joe @ 11:39 AM
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hello,
ah it makes a lot of noises this here in france.
l'est républicain is a country newspaper . by country i mean a part of france "newspaperly speaking"... mostly after years you can see west one, east one, south east, paris, north and maybe about normandy but i don't know (and many not famous small ones). "est républicain" is the 2 administrative countries "franche conte" (alpes...) and lorraine (the part reason of wars between france and germany). but you can see the map where you can find it in france (it is selt in germany and belgium as well):
http://groupe.estrepublicain.fr/
the owner is a familly and many investors. it is not a newspaper like National Inquirer. It is let's say serious one if i could say it about french newspapers.
let me explain something that can explain about why it is in "est républicain". In France, the secret services make what we call "notes blanches" (white notes) which are notes coming from secret services and going directly (volunteer) to the newspapers. it is used by some politician to say bad thing about other politician for exemple. sometimes it it fake but not most of time. one famous newspaper get very often from them news: "le canard enchainé".
so here it is : the "est républicain" received from DGSE (they said) an information that Ben Laden was maybe dead. Chirac immediately spoke to journalists an d said that first it was not true for him (like bush said as well) and that he asks for an inquirer in DGSE to know what happened (that nobody never know and maybe no inquirer).
I read today that saudis say it was not true they gave this information to DGSE (french secret service). my advice is that we are in times of manipulation : some wanted to please Bush and believe he'd like to hear it? or some wanted to make fall in a trap? or "Est républicain" wrote a volunteer fake to make an advertisement?
about Ben Laden i am always very surprised how easily he can escape when he is doing communication. Like you said it needs a big help.
Take care
le Rouge et le Noir -
Thank you very much for the assessment of the French sources and good in-country (France) material for those of us on the outside.
Typically, such material is partially true, but not entirely true -- and that can make a big difference. A lot of today's papers are saying he (Osama been Dying) is quite sick, but likely still alive.
Cheers
MWN (joe)
hello,
at least i checked and it was a note published from dgse. so now the minister of army wants to know who gave the information.
cheers
fred
le Rouge et le Noir -
Fred?
Rumors are hard to track down when newspapers get sticky on the matter.
Cheers
MWN (Joe)
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